110: Bonus Edition- Interview with Phyl Macomber


Phyl Macomber is an award-winning national speaker, author, inclusion specialist, and curriculum strategist. As President of Make A Difference, Inc., Phyl has consulted with and trained thousands of teaching staff. She’s been a guest on several radio shows to discuss simplifying instruction for students of all abilities. Her partnership with Leave No Girl Behind International is training young people in key leadership principles globally. Phyl has created a 4-step simple system called the PACT for how to teach anything to anyone – in a way that students of any ability learn faster and deeper – and, teachers succeed in reaching and teaching ALL students while meeting the standards. Phyl’s first book, The Power of T.H.E. P.A.C.T., is being referred to as “the simple, evidence-based solution for differentiated instruction and meaningful inclusion.”


  • Focus on sameness
  • In everyone’s hearts, all means all
  • Inclusion has become hidden curriculum
  • Remember your “why”
  • Move from thinking about performance to an understanding of it
  • In order to solve real problems, you need to spend a significant amount of time in the environment that the problems exist
  • Trust your gut
  • Responsibility is a gift
  • Focus on solutions to get through life
  • Work smarter not harder
  • Make the biggest impact

Phyl’s Stamp of Approval

  • 3-3 Exercise : 3 things I feel I did well to make a difference/ 3 things to tweak or shape the next time to better serve
  • iPACT App
  • Twitter Networking
  • Mastermind Groups for “Vital 3”

Connect with Phyl

  • Website: https://aboutthepact.com/
  • Twitter: @AllAboutTHEPACT

Connect with Gretchen

  • Email: gretchen@alwaysalesson.com
  • Blog: Always A Lesson
  • Facebook: Always A Lesson
  • Twitter: @gschultek
  • Instagram: Always.A.Lesson
  • Linkedin: Gretchen Schultek Bridgers
  • Google+: Gretchen Schultek Bridgers
  • Book: Elementary EDUC 101: What They Didn’t Teach You in College

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About the author, Gretchen

I am a teacher trainer and coach. Working elbow to elbow with teachers and teacher leaders to ensure instructional proficiency and student achievement soar lights me up. We have a real need in our nation for strong educators to remain in the field. My blog, book, podcast, courses and instructional materials are geared towards empowering teachers (and those that lead them) to receive the support needed to grow and thrive today, tomorrow and always.